Legislature(2007 - 2008)BARNES 124

03/15/2007 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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*+ HB 169 MUNIS IMPOUND/FORFEIT MOTOR VEHICLE TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
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= HB 101 UNIFORM TRAFFIC LAWS
Moved CSHB 101(CRA) Out of Committee
HB 101-UNIFORM TRAFFIC LAWS                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:02:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  101,  "An Act  relating  to uniform  traffic                                                               
laws."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:02:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH  moved  to   adopt  CSHB  101,  Version  25-                                                               
LS0262\C,  Luckhaupt, 3/12/07,  as the  working document.   There                                                               
being no objection, Version C was before the committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:03:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATH HILYARD,  Staff to Representative Carl  Gatto, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, pointed out that the  committee should have a letter                                                               
from the  Office of the Mayor  of Anchorage dated March  5, 2007,                                                               
in which he responded to  comments and discussion at the previous                                                               
committee hearing.  The mayor  offered a couple of suggestions to                                                               
further  clarify statute.   The  sponsor choose  to move  forward                                                               
with  the  suggestion  of judicial  imposition  of  the  ignition                                                               
interlock requirement.   However,  the second suggestion  was not                                                               
addressed because  it is  incorporated in  Representative Meyer's                                                               
legislation,  HB 19.   Mr.  Hilyard related  that Section  2 does                                                               
address some of  the sentencing confusion that  was identified by                                                               
Anchorage's  municipal attorney,  John McConnaughy.   He  related                                                               
that he  has provided  Mr. McConnaughy and  the mayor's  chief of                                                               
staff with  Version C,  but hasn't  been able  to reach  them for                                                               
comment.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  expressed concern  that she  only recently                                                               
saw the  letter from  the mayor  and wasn't  sure that  Version C                                                               
fits within what  MOA found at fault.  She  expressed interest in                                                               
receiving  municipal  feedback  on   this  prior  to  moving  the                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HILYARD related  that he  spoke  with the  mayor's chief  of                                                               
staff  two days  ago and  faxed a  copy of  Version C  requesting                                                               
comments.   He  further related  that he  has made  attempts this                                                               
morning to reach the mayor's  chief of staff and Mr. McConnaughy,                                                               
but  to no  avail.   Mr. Hilyard  explained that  the legislative                                                               
drafter was charged with drafting  Section 2 such that it adopted                                                               
the mayor's first suggestion in the most correct manner.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:08:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH said  she  originally shared  Representative                                                               
Cissna's   concerns,   but   has   had   repeated   contact   and                                                               
correspondence [with  MOA] since the  initial meeting on  HB 101.                                                               
The   bottom  line   is  that   from   the  legislature's   legal                                                               
perspective, the  municipality must  be in  compliance regardless                                                               
of  whether they  agree or  not.   She opined,  "I do  think that                                                               
we're ready to  move today on the bill that's  before us and that                                                               
we have provided the municipality  additional time."  She related                                                               
the calls she  has made trying to contact  municipal officials in                                                               
Anchorage.   Co-Chair Fairclough opined that  the situation seems                                                               
to be a  stand-off in which the choice is  either a legal action,                                                               
which would  waste resources at the  state and local level,  or a                                                               
compromise during  this legislative session.   Therefore, Version                                                               
C is a compromise that she said she supports.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:12:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HILYARD, in  response to Co-Chair LeDoux,  clarified that the                                                               
mayor's letter  included two  suggestions, the  second suggestion                                                               
would  tie  ignition  interlock  to  the  issuance  of  temporary                                                               
limited  licenses, which  is the  essence  of HB  19.   If HB  19                                                               
doesn't make  it through both  bodies, then  Representative Gatto                                                               
would entertain  inserting the  second suggestion,  he said.   In                                                               
response to Representative Neuman,  Mr. Hilyard related that both                                                               
the sponsor  of HB  19 and  HB 101 have  been in  discussion even                                                               
before either legislation was prefiled.   The discussion was that                                                               
while   each   dealt   with  ignition   interlocks,   they   were                                                               
fundamentally  different in  the ultimate  goal.   Therefore, the                                                               
decision at this point was to  keep the two pieces of legislation                                                               
separate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:15:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GERALD  LUCKHAUPT,  Attorney,   Legislative  Legal  and  Research                                                               
Services, Legislative  Affairs Agency,  related that  the mayor's                                                               
letter  offers  the  following  two proposals:    to  adjust  the                                                               
ignition  interlock requirement  when an  individual has  a blood                                                               
alcohol content  (BAC) of .16  or greater and adjust  who decides                                                               
that and  at what phase of  the sentencing process in  which that                                                               
decision is  made; to eliminate the  courts and assign it  to the                                                               
Division of  Motor Vehicles,  possibly at a  time when  a limited                                                               
license is  issued.  Mr. Luckhaupt  said that he was  directed to                                                               
work the first proposal, which  is close to what currently exists                                                               
in  statute.   The mayor  suggested altering  Title 12,  which is                                                               
criminal   procedure   statute.     The   difficulty   with   the                                                               
aforementioned is  that all of the  state's sentencing procedures                                                               
for drunk  driving are in Title  28.  Therefore, placing  this in                                                               
Title 12 is problematic because  those dealing with sentencing or                                                               
the  crime of  drunk  driving  wouldn't know  to  look there  for                                                               
sentencing.    The aforementioned  led  to  the suggestion  being                                                               
placed in  Title 28 since  it's a  drunk driving provision.   The                                                               
greater  decision for  the committee  is whether  to go  with the                                                               
original   legislation  requiring   ignition   interlock.     The                                                               
aforementioned  was applied  statewide under  the Alaska  Uniform                                                               
Traffic Laws  Act.  The Act  was established in order  that folks                                                               
traveling through  different areas of  the state would  know what                                                               
is expected of  them.  Therefore, municipalities  are expected to                                                               
change the  municipal code to  be consistent with  the provisions                                                               
of the  uniform traffic code,  although at times  the legislature                                                               
has decided to exempt certain municipalities from the code.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:21:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  asked if  and  when  the state  has  sent                                                               
notice  to  municipalities regarding  this  uniform  Act and  any                                                               
changes  to it.   He  mentioned the  difficulty of  smaller areas                                                               
with limited resources  to comply with something  like this, even                                                               
if the area is notified.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT explained that annually  each municipality with its                                                               
own municipal  traffic code  is required  to send  a copy  of its                                                               
traffic code to  the state.  Furthermore,  every municipality has                                                               
the option to adopt the Uniform  Traffic Laws Act.  He noted that                                                               
many of the  smaller municipalities don't have  their own traffic                                                               
code and thus  merely adopt the state's code.   The first chapter                                                               
of  Title 28  sets  forth the  procedure  and municipalities  are                                                               
required to identify their traffic  laws using similar numbers to                                                               
the  state's code  or  specifically adopt  and  cite the  state's                                                               
code.   With  regard to  when  the legislature  amends laws,  Mr.                                                               
Luckhaupt related  his assumption  that the  DMV has  a procedure                                                               
for  notifying communities.    He pointed  out  that until  MOA's                                                               
difficulty  with  the  ignition  interlock  law  with  which  the                                                               
Anchorage  municipal attorney  had issues  and didn't  notify the                                                               
Anchorage  Assembly  about  the   change,  there  hasn't  been  a                                                               
compliance  issue  with  municipalities with  their  own  traffic                                                               
code.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:24:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN requested Mr.  Luckhaupt's help in drafting                                                               
a letter  to distribute  to the smaller  communities in  order to                                                               
inform them of state law.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:24:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LUCKHAUPT, in  response to  Co-Chair  Fairclough, said  that                                                               
MOA's  traffic  code  is  on   file  with  DMV,  the  Legislative                                                               
Reference Library,  and on the  Internet as well.   Mr. Luckhaupt                                                               
said that a  year ago he did perform research  from which he came                                                               
to  know that  MOA hasn't  amended it's  traffic code  to reflect                                                               
this change in law in 2004.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH  related her understanding that  the existing                                                               
[ignition interlock] law should be implemented in its entirety.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT opined  that the law is in effect  and any MOA code                                                               
that  isn't  consistent with  state  law  falls by  the  wayside.                                                               
There  have  been  a  number  of  situations  in  which  MOA  has                                                               
attempted to  create more stringent  penalties for  drunk drivers                                                               
than state  law provides.   Because of  it was less  favorable to                                                               
the defendant, the  defendant would raise the issue  and it would                                                               
be taken  to the  courts and  the MOA  ordinance would  be struck                                                               
down because it  was inconsistent with state law.   However, [MOA                                                               
not  applying the  ignition interlock  law is  beneficial to  the                                                               
defendants who  along with MOA  aren't going to raise  the issue.                                                               
Therefore,  defendants in  MOA are  receiving  a lesser  sentence                                                               
than those  elsewhere in the state.   In further response  to Co-                                                               
Chair Fairclough, Mr. Luckhaupt related  that if MOA continues to                                                               
ignore the Alaska Uniform Traffic  Laws Act, the attorney general                                                               
would   have  options   such  as   a  declaratory   judgment  and                                                               
extraordinary writs.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:28:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX asked  if Version C is tight enough  that MOA has                                                               
to enforce the [ignition interlock law].                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT  said there's no  wiggle room that would  allow MOA                                                               
to not  enforce [the ignition  interlock law].   Furthermore, the                                                               
2004 law with which MOA had  problems has been changed to reflect                                                               
and address MOA's concerns.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:29:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT, in response to  Representative Neuman, pointed out                                                               
that if communities  aren't using their own  local traffic codes,                                                               
they're  using  the  Alaska  Uniform Traffic  Laws  Act  and  the                                                               
regulations adopted by the Department  of Transportation & Public                                                               
Facilities  already.    In  further  response  to  Representative                                                               
Neuman, Mr. Luckhaupt explained  that a municipal police officer,                                                               
just as a  state trooper, can cite an individual  under the state                                                               
or the  municipal traffic code.   For example, a number  of years                                                               
ago  Fairbanks eliminated  all of  its municipal  prosecutors and                                                               
criminal  enforcement, and  thus Fairbanks  police officers  cite                                                               
individuals  under  the  state   law  for  all  traffic  offenses                                                               
committed within the municipality.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:32:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH inquired as to  why the sponsor brought forth                                                               
legislation rather than requesting a declaratory judgment.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:35:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARL  GATTO, Alaska State Legislature,  sponsor of                                                               
HB 101, related that it was  his personal philosophy.  He related                                                               
that  he contacted  officials  within MOA,  which  resulted in  a                                                               
response from  the mayor who  suggested remedies.   Therefore, he                                                               
wanted to work with those involved.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:36:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH commented  that she  would leave  it to  the                                                               
sponsor regarding  whether ultimately  the attorney  general must                                                               
be brought in to deal with the situation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:37:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OLSON  asked if  the  sponsor  would entertain  a                                                               
friendly  amendment  to hold  any  road  funds  until MOA  is  in                                                               
compliance.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO said,  "I'll fall on my sword  to get drunks                                                               
out of their cars."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:38:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX, upon determining no  one else wished to testify,                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:39:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OLSON highlighted  that it's  the second  time no                                                               
one from MOA has appeared during  the hearing of HB 101, which he                                                               
remarked was disappointing.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:39:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OLSON  moved  to  report CSHB  101,  Version  25-                                                               
LS0262\C, Luckhaupt,  3/12/07, out  of committee  with individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no  objection,   CSHB  101(CRA)  was  reported   from  the  House                                                               
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                              

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